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	<title>Comments on: What is of value?</title>
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		<title>By: Marcus van Soest</title>
		<link>http://www.artnewyorkcity.com/2007/02/04/what-is-of-value/comment-page-1/#comment-2748</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus van Soest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Marshall,

it&#039;s been a while since i was online, just didn&#039;t feel like it,
too busy painting and other stuff. I was going through the rss feeds to find this article.. 

Great article, although i  disagree with the comparison on Delacroix, one of the greatest painters that ever walked the Earth, his composition is strong as can be, while this Chinese picture lacks any tension.  In Delacroix work the sculptural use of the paint enlivens the language of the paint, while the Chinese is too smooth and dead use of the material. I would say, the Delacroix is a painting, while the other just an illustration...

Another thing i disagree is that an artist should be running in groups, as said in My Take no  1, that is in conflict with no 2.  one(!) has to make history.
I believe that those who make history are the unique artists who follow their own course as individuals and are respected for that by the right social network. Others , weaker types follow the strong fish going upstream. The idea that  the great ones are seen as in &#039;groups&#039; is the work of the art-historians who find it easier to determinate cultural movements by grouping individuals who might just have met once in their lives. 

Well i find this a great post, so i decided to blog it on POWERPAINTER.ORG, see if there&#039;s some reactions...

Marshall , So long and keep up the good posts!

Also greetings to Amy Creore!!!

Marcus van Soest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Marshall,</p>
<p>it&#8217;s been a while since i was online, just didn&#8217;t feel like it,<br />
too busy painting and other stuff. I was going through the rss feeds to find this article.. </p>
<p>Great article, although i  disagree with the comparison on Delacroix, one of the greatest painters that ever walked the Earth, his composition is strong as can be, while this Chinese picture lacks any tension.  In Delacroix work the sculptural use of the paint enlivens the language of the paint, while the Chinese is too smooth and dead use of the material. I would say, the Delacroix is a painting, while the other just an illustration&#8230;</p>
<p>Another thing i disagree is that an artist should be running in groups, as said in My Take no  1, that is in conflict with no 2.  one(!) has to make history.<br />
I believe that those who make history are the unique artists who follow their own course as individuals and are respected for that by the right social network. Others , weaker types follow the strong fish going upstream. The idea that  the great ones are seen as in &#8216;groups&#8217; is the work of the art-historians who find it easier to determinate cultural movements by grouping individuals who might just have met once in their lives. </p>
<p>Well i find this a great post, so i decided to blog it on POWERPAINTER.ORG, see if there&#8217;s some reactions&#8230;</p>
<p>Marshall , So long and keep up the good posts!</p>
<p>Also greetings to Amy Creore!!!</p>
<p>Marcus van Soest</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Marshall-

The images I blogged were basically Chinese Pin Up posters of the &#039;30s.
They are amazing.

Here is an interesting explanation found on:
http://www.terebess.hu/kereskedelem/gyujtemeny/plakat/plakat.html

&quot;Shanghai Girlie Posters or Yuefenpai Calendar Posters were used to sell everything from beer to soap. The models were both idealised western girls as well as real Chinese stars illustrating Shanghai&#039;s love affair with Hollywood. In 1994 these posters were fetching over $1000 in Singapore.&quot; 

and...

&quot;It was this perceived &quot;Western decadence&quot; that led to most of these posters being destroyed during the fervour of the &quot;cultural revolution&quot; (1966-76). The ones we see today are the few that survived the hooligan vandals of that era. &quot;


This art is beautifully rendered by Chinese artists who were aware of art history and western culture.
The internet helps us find, document and remember this wonderful graphic art.

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Marshall-</p>
<p>The images I blogged were basically Chinese Pin Up posters of the &#8217;30s.<br />
They are amazing.</p>
<p>Here is an interesting explanation found on:<br />
<a href="http://www.terebess.hu/kereskedelem/gyujtemeny/plakat/plakat.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.terebess.hu/kereskedelem/gyujtemeny/plakat/plakat.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Shanghai Girlie Posters or Yuefenpai Calendar Posters were used to sell everything from beer to soap. The models were both idealised western girls as well as real Chinese stars illustrating Shanghai&#8217;s love affair with Hollywood. In 1994 these posters were fetching over $1000 in Singapore.&#8221; </p>
<p>and&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;It was this perceived &#8220;Western decadence&#8221; that led to most of these posters being destroyed during the fervour of the &#8220;cultural revolution&#8221; (1966-76). The ones we see today are the few that survived the hooligan vandals of that era. &#8221;</p>
<p>This art is beautifully rendered by Chinese artists who were aware of art history and western culture.<br />
The internet helps us find, document and remember this wonderful graphic art.</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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